Q & A: Can CPS take my kids if I give one dirty drug test?


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According to this NO! But almost all county social service “child protection” agencies across the country and abroad DO REMOVE CHILDREN BASED ON ONE TEST ALONE. Is it LEGAL? The answer is NO IT IS NOT “LEGAL”. Nowhere in the California Welfare & Institutions Codes does it state that they have authority to take possession of a child based on ONE drug test. Often, CPS will remove your child simply for declining to cooperate, if it comes back “diluted” which only means that there was not enough creatiine in your urine so the test was aborted. So, if a person drinks the recommended 8-10  eight ounce glasses of water a day and goes to test before they have eaten and/or digested any portion of food then most likely the test will be considered a “dilute”. That will prompt CPS to suggest and ultimately state as a fact, that you used and purposely drank an exessive amount of water to “fool” the test. What a bunch of bullcrap that is, especially when you do not know these things before hand! I know, I experienced it.

 A MOUTH SWAB TEST SHOULD NEVER BE USED TO REMOVE YOUR CHILD BECAUSE THESE TESTS ARE INITIAL TESTS AND THEIR PURPOSE IS TO SAVE MONEY ON LABORATORY TESTS AS THEY CAN QUICKLY SHOW THAT THE SUBJECT DOES NOT HAVE ANY DRUGS DETECTABLE IN THEIR SYSTEM. This includes any “on-the-spot” or “on location” tests such as a “dip stick”. A positive test is NEVER positive until confirmed by a scientifically calibrated testing machine in a certified laboratory. BUT DOES ANYONE IN CHILD PROTECTION OR THE JUVENILE DEPENDENCY COURT EVER ACKNOWLEDGE THESE BASIC DRUG TESTING PRINCIPLES AND REGULATIONS? NO THEY DO NOT. Want to know WHY? Because the “lawyers” for the parents and children DO NOT OBJECT, DO NOT CHALLENGE AND DO NOT CARE about children and families.

TO THE DEFENSE PANEL LAME-O ATTORNEYS: STAND UP FOR WHAT KNOW IS RIGHT, NOT WHAT YOUR HAVE “BOUGHT-IN” TO! DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU REALLY ARE, NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING?  YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF LAZY SOCIOPATHIC SADISTIC SORCERERS SEIZING YOUNGSTERS FOR SELFISH SECURITY 

Often social workers will use mouth swab preliminary drug test kits and they are told to use them as evidence to remove children. They KNOW that they can and will get away with it because they KNOW the parent’s lawyers will NOT object to their use nor will they challenge ANY DRUG TEST WHATSOEVER. 

In our second case, I declined to participate in their drug testing as they faked the results more often than not. Twice they tried to “prove” to me that they do not fake tests and came up with two negative hair follicle tests but it is so obvious how they cut-and-pasted the real test document onto their THIRD PARTY COHORT (CDT iNC.) LETTERHEAD like they do for the fake ones. Near the end of our first CPS case, I did not even show up at the collection site to give a hair sample and they still came up with a positive hair follicle test! You can tell how fake this test is by the fact that it does not claim to be positive for amphetamines. It is IMPOSSIBLE for hair to be positive for only methamphetamines because when you consume methamphetamines, it quickly converts to amphetamine metabolites as that is the main ingredient of methamphetamines. Can’t make meth without  ephedrine which is what? An amphetamine! Many clinical and case studies have been conducted on this issue and the research documentation available online. If the “lawyers” were actually on your side, they would contest, object and motion to dismiss based on the falsification of documents that CPS social workers commonly submit to the COURT. That, in and of itself, is a FELONY in California!

Both offering and preparing false evidence are obstruction of justice crimes in California. Penal Code 132 PC makes it a felony to knowingly present false written evidence in pretty much any kind of legal proceeding.1 Similarly, Penal Code 134 PC makes it a crime to prepare any false evidence with the intent to use it in a legal proceeding (even if, for whatever reason, the false evidence never actually gets presented in court).2

Penalties

Offering or preparing false evidence under Penal Code 132 PC or Penal Code 134 PC is a California felony.4 This means that it is possible to be sentenced to as much as three (3) years in California state prison if you are convicted.5

California Penal Code Section 115 PC: Filing A False Document

1. Definition and Elements of the Crime

Filing a False Document under California Penal Code Section 115 PC makes it a felony to file any forged or false document with a public office.

The statute requires a prosecutor to prove the following elements:

  1. A defendant provided a document for filing, recording or registration with any public office in California
  2. The defendant knew that the document was false or a forgery when he or she filed it AND
  3. The document was one that, if genuine, could be legally filed.

The term “document” has been interpreted broadly by courts and prosecutors. The statute is most frequently used to prosecute the filing of false property deeds in connection with real estate fraud schemes. However, Filing a False Document charges can involve almost any document that can be legally filed in a public office, including bail bonds, probation work referrals, and even fishing records.

2. Examples

Looking to make some quick money, a man forges a copy of a property transfer deed indicating that he purchased a home from his mother and he is now the lawful owner. The man files this forged property deed with the county recorder’s office and then takes out substantial loans against the property. Not only is the man guilty of mortgage fraud, he would also be criminally liable for Filing a False or Forged Document and could be prosecuted for both offenses.

3. Related Offenses

Filing a False Document under Penal Code Section 115 PC is usually associated with other Theft Crimes andWhite Collar Crimes such as Real Estate Fraud and Mortgage Fraud. In fact, prosecutors may prefer to file charges under Penal Code 115 PC because it is a felony level offense that is easier to prove than some of the more complex fraud charges.

Related charges also include:

  1. Forgery – California Penal Code Section 470 PC
  2. Perjury – California Penal Code Section 118 PC
  3. Grand Theft – California Penal Code Section 487 PC

[Courtesy of http://www.losangelescriminallawyer.pro/california-penal-code-section-115-pc-filing-a-false-document.html]

HERE IS ONE OF EIGHT FALSIFIED “DRUG TEST” DOCUMENTS THE DEPARTMENT CLAIMED WERE RESULTS OF HAIR FOLLICLE TESTS:

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29 thoughts on “Q & A: Can CPS take my kids if I give one dirty drug test?”

  1. Dear Donnoley justice — I feel for you and the loss of your son — I am about to loose my granddaughter – we are fighting our last battles and long story short could not find a lawyer to pick up this case mid way thru until the end now – unfortunately. I have paid a lot of money that I did not have to fight this case for my son and we are still loosing because the judge has left all the decisions to the CPS Worker who has set up her buddy who she works with from the Foster Care agency – with my Grand daughter who will be 2 years old tomorrow — you only know my fear and my deep deep sorrow — What they are doing is so Illegal. Can you offer any last suggestions ?? Of course the CPS worker has stated that she does not want to re-unify – my son has done nothing wrong he has not worked so he can complete everything they asked of him — and still they will not reunify — they state that – a few weeks ago – he had tested positive to Alcohol and Meth — this is such a Lie — my son would not do Meth now and he would not be stupid enough to walk in and test if he had a drink — such a Lie — I took him straight to the doctors office and had his blood ran — the problem is was that of course the CPS worker – told him of the positive test 7 days later — anyway of course his blood results were negative for both. Lying Baby Stealing Bastards !! I could go on forever with my stories that have occurred for the past year and one half – but right now I must work on preparation for court — Any suggestions for me ??

    Thank you for what you do – you are an inspiration to us all — We will join your team once time frees up for then we will be asking you — What can we do for you and your Fight against the crooked CPS teams

    Thank you for your time — Janette

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  2. I wanted to ask you a question. Maybe you can steer me in the right direction. CPS has had my kids for 5 months and it’s been an absolute nightmare.  They didn’t have just cause to remove my children.  there’s so much  to the story so I just want to focus on one thing to ask you or I would be writing you a book it’s so twisted what’s happened to us. I have two boys.  One who is one and with a good foster mom. The other is eleven and disabled and in a wheelchair.  His foster mother is not a good person and has sabatoged our visits once cancelling one saying it was because my son hit a couple of caretakers.  Than we called my son on the phone and asked him what happened and he said because michelle his foster mom cancelled it. She chimed on the phone and said no riley you did. He said no michelle you did. She said all the lies about us having bad visits while the other foster mom says we are wonderful parents. But anyways I am afraid for my son. He days he is afraid of michelle,  she ignores him and puts him in front of the tv all day. He doesn’t look right.  He’s drooling profusely.  We called cps twice and said we believe he’s being abused

     Of course no one cares and it could be 3 more months before these monsters will give me my children back. I researched michelle.  She’s already been accused of sexual abuse and abuse by the regional center. She ended up suing and won. Her and her husband had a school and they were bounding children s hands together.  It got closed down. So basically I am terrified of what this couple is doing to my son and what they could do to him in the next 3 months as I could see them being vindictive at riley because my husband and I have been trying to rescue him from them. I believe they do this business for greed and no love for these children.  They fights parents in court to take their children.  So my question is do you know how to find a female pro bono attorney who could help me? I am scared, brocken, and feel victimized and defenseless. I need help to save my baby. Thank you, Teri Kellenberger 951 396 9610

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    From:”donnellyjustice” Date:Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 4:16 PM Subject:[New post] Q & A: Can CPS take my kids if I give one dirty drug test?

    sdj4djustice posted: ” According to this NO! But almost all county social service “child protection” agencies across the country and abroad DO REMOVE CHILDREN BASED ON ONE TEST ALONE. Is it LEGAL? The answer is NO IT IS NOT “LEGAL”. Nowhere in the California Welfare &”

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  3. I can relate totally to this due to CPS falsifying 13 drug testa in a row causing me to just about loose my 2 yr old son. My dump truck layer did just as you said and just went with it saying it wasn’t an issue but I was in compliance in all other areas so that’s the sole factor I’m them keeping my son n now it’s all about how I won’t take responsibility. what can I do? I have not lost parental rights. Help!

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  4. Our son Kevin David Cooke jr
    Passed away back in September of 2007
    09/25/07 to be exact,, cps took our other 4 children pending autopsy report
    Autopsy report came back sudden death of an infant ,sids ,, took 4-5 months for report,, and even tho it came back sids ,, and we were proved innocent in his death,cps still didn’t give our children back, we had to fight for our children for 2 years to get them back,,, when other people in the classes we were forced to do ( mind you,, we weren’t charged with anything,but were made to play puppeteers) suffocated their child and had their other children back in 9 months,, ( we didn’t kill our son, yet had them taken for no reason for two years)
    What can we do???

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    1. When did Kevin get his immunizations? How long before the sids? There is a link between immunizations and sids as well as autism and immunizations. Look it up on YouTube. Thanks for telling your story. You can SUE THEM FOR VIOLATING YOUR 14TH AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND ON BEHALF OF KEVIN FOR VIOLATING HIS 4TH AMENDMENT RIGHTS. 42 U.S.C. Section 1983.

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      1. My son just passed away…….. he got super sick after his immunizations and never recovered. he passed away a week and a half later. there is still no cause of death. i was wondering where you found the information on immunizations and death. please let me know. ive looked myself and didnt find anything substantial.

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  5. I really need some information on what I can do to get my kids home. My ex got mad when I started dating someone and started calling, his moms best friend works there. They came and interviewed on Monday, gave me a drug screen, i was honest and told the ladies I took some adder all, I know I can refuse it but i just wanted to prove them wrong. They came Friday to take the kids, after they said I failed a drug screen for methaphetamine, I told them it was impossible, I’m 35 I ever never had a criminal or drug charge, My older 3 children’s father lives in Florida, the younger ones in North Dakota, I’ve been raising these kids alone all there lives. They see their dads maybe once every few year. I wasn’t home when they came so I packed up and left for Florida Friday, they had no court order for them nor gave me one! I have an amazing family there and didn’t want them in foster but to them. My ex called and tricked me and and they tracked me to a Georgia hotel. They let one ex have all the kids, they couldn’t arrest me because I was never served papers, now I can’t contact any of them and they won’t let me even talk to them. They have never been away from me! I need help please🙏🏻🙏🏻💔

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  6. Thank you for being a beaken of truth for the forgoten segregated faction of cps moms. Whom as a whole may not ever succed but you must believe in the few that not only want but must retain parental rights. Failing is paramount to wandering earth void of soul in an endles reincarnation of a mother’s worst fear. Faileure on a primevil genetic level. as a male I will never truly know how horribble it must be but I wallow in sorrow for my love. Upon whom this injusted was carried out in the most suspisiouse and malicious way. If u can give insight please do . may all manifestations of hope and empowerment find you in your purpose.

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  7. System does not work iregardless of evidence. They know they can’t be touched. Everyone will allegedly cover up their alleged illegalities. Till your broke or exhausted.

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  8. My daughter has let her 2 years daughter go to her father house for a week when she got back my daughter was changing her 2 year old pullup so she’s as cleaning her & she felt like the baby didn’t look the same down there so she called the father & was trying to talk to him about it & he just hung the phone up the next morning he called Cps on my daughter like she had did something wrong so the baby went to thre doctor the following day but she had never been touched at all now Cps wants to drug test my daughter do she has to take it can they take her kids if she decline the drug test…

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  9. Hi I recently took a test for cps I passed my urine test but failed my hair follical will cos take my child because of this?

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  10. CPS NEVER ONCE GOT A DIRTY UA FROM ME , THEY SAID THEY TESTED MY BABIES MACONIUM AND IT SHOWED AT THREE MONTHS GESTATION I TESTED POSITIVE FOR AMPHETAMINES .BUT HAD NEGATIVE SCREENINGS SENSE. I DIDNT FIND OUT I WAS PREGNANT TILL I WAS 3 MONTHS ALONG I HAD A HEALTHY PREGNANCY , A HEALTHY BABY I WAE CLEAN THROUGH TO BIRTH I WAS CLEAN AFTER THEY TOOK UM I PAID FOR MY OWN UAS AND HAIR FOLICLE BUT BECAUSE IT TOOK NEARLY 3MONTHS FOR Me to get into court with a paid attorney they denied me reunification and refused to accept any of the has or documents for my classes into court . Their reason they stated I had ABANDONED MY CHILDREN ….. CARSON AND JORDAN I WANT YOU TO KNOW NO MATTER WHAT THEY MIGHT SAY TO YOU GUYS ABOUT US PLEASE KNOW MOM AND DAD SO LOVE YOU SO MUCH AND NOT A DAY GOES BY WE DONT THINK ABOUT U TALK ABOUT U AND CRY FOR U … AND WE WILL NOT GIVE UP FIGHTING FOR U . WE WILL BE TOGETGER AGAIN I PROMISE PLEASE KNOW YOUR LOVED MORE THAN LIFE ITS SELF , THE DAY THE STATE TOOK U FROM US THEY TOOK OUR BREATH OUR REASON FOR BEING , BUT WERE NOT GOING TO LET THEM DEFEAT US , WERE GONNA COME BACK STRONGER THAN EVER AND WE WILL FIND A WAY TO PUT OUR BROKEN FAMILY BACK TOGETHER!!!!
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  11. My 6 children were takin from me a year and half ago they are trying to take them completely and already have family’s wanting to adopt them I want my kids back. They have even takin my visits a at I can’t talk to them please help me there’s more to this case..
    Jennifer Whitaker
    Withrow306@gmail.com
    Thank you

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  12. Donnelly Justice– PLEASE HELP ME!! I’m going through the ringer with CPS in Indiana. Short story is this- I have a son who just turned two, and a son who is 9 months. They took my kids from me 7 months ago because of ONE dirty mouth swab for Methamphetamines and amphetamines. I got involved because when I had my youngest son, they found a Percocet in his system. I was prescribed hydrocodones, an excessive amount, my whole pregnancy. I was honest and told them I took the Percocet because I ran out of my medicine and I didn’t know they showed up as different things. After talking to CPS a couple of times, they wanted me to do an involuntary adjustment because they said my case was nothing major, I own my own home, been at the same job for years, my children had everything they need and wanted. Well I honestly didn’t see any issue they should have to be involved with me at all so I kept blowing them off. Eventually I figured I better do something so things didn’t get worse. The day after my mother signed a waiver saying she could be involved with the case and all information, I called her and asked her to please call the CPS and ask them what steps we needed to take next to get everything rolling because I was swamped at work. No one answered so she left a voicemail. Three days later I get a call saying I have court in two days for a hearing about CPS opening an in-home chins case against me because I ignored all contact with them. I had my children for 3 more months and never failed one drug screen. My baby daddy went on a rampage one night and physically abused me while holding my newborn. I called the police and had him arrested. I was depressed, thought I had a clear window of opportunity being the weekend, and got high to cope. My case worker showed up for a surprise visit and to check on things since their was a domestic disoute! And screened me. Three days later my babies were taken from daycare and put in foster care. My mother was told that she couldn’t get my children because of dishonesty and lying to CPS saying that I wasn’t home. Finally, I had got my cousins permission for relative placement at her house and she got my boys. I got three visits after that. I lost my visits due to a screen that came back negative for everything, but the lab had called my caseworker and left a voicemail saying there was traces of methamphetamines in my system, but not enough to show up. I don’t believe that to be true because I had not used. I did awesome when she got them at first. She let my oldest son call me every night at bedtime, sent me pictures all day, and she talked to my everyday. I got kind of snappy with her in a text on a bad day I was having because she failed to inform me about my youngest sons specialist appointment. (He had surgery on his throat and slits cut in his airway while still in foster care and I wasn’t allowed to go even though I was passing screens then) and she ended all communication in any way. My mom literally got in trouble for sending me pictures my cousin sent her. My addiction became even more worse!! At this same point in time, I called my CPS office to ask them to please have my case worker call me., because I had had no contact with her in 47 days. I logged everything. In the meeting my case worker said that I was a liar, she had had contact with me and she didn’t “give a damn about me or what I had logged.” I stormed out and left and then they said I was too emotionally stable for visits and still kept them suspended. I once again used drugs to cope. Now, I’ve been doing meth everyday for five months straight. Thank the lucky stars, my case worker who I did not get along with, got promoted to supervisor and I was assigned a new one. At my last team meeting they mentioned inpatient rehab(I’ve almost completed my intensive outpatient) or they said there was a slight chance that the judge could get me for contempt of court if I didn’t comply with the rehab. I was all for it. I did all the research myself, put myself on waiting lists, found the second best rehab in the state many of my friends involved with CPS recommended to me. Gave all the info to my case worker, even got myself waived completely off their 10 week waiting list… CPS didn’t want to fund me to go. The next day I get contempt of court papers in the mail. I go to court for that, and for the next hearing about my case next week. My children’s father finally got clean and has been getting visits for two months now. My mother fought with everything in her to get visits after they made her do a hair follicle and 3 months of clean time. The rundown to my question is this, I’ve heard of parents signing temporary custody or temporary guardianship over to someone and that forces CPS to hav to close their case. If I was to sign temp guardianship over to my cousin who has them, or my mother who would move into my home with the boys (I would move out), would this force the case closed? This would mean the children would be back in their familiar environment with my mother if she got them (she is now 5 months cleans and comply with anything CPS says) and who they are familiar with. I would put myself into rehab and follow all rules my mother had until she believed I was ready to care for my children again. CPS ruins me. They say and do so many corrupt things in my case it’s even funny. I know that if I didn’t have to deal with a CapS backing me into a corner making me feel I’ve always been a piece of shit mother and always will be, my addiction will just keep getting worse. I know if I just seen my boys once I’d never even want to smell a drug or hear the word drug again because my kids would be home and my life would be back to normal. Please give me any advice you can as quickly as possible. And I apologize, that was not a long story told short lol. PLEASE HELP ME!!!!! (Also would the father have to sign too with the temporary guardianship to hand it over…???) everyone else respond here , @donnellyjustice please respond to me via email @ caycolt2714@gmail.com

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  13. OK I guess the cps workers said I had a test show positive for amphetamines and baby to at birth but when I looked at my results it said positive then negative for reference range wat’s that mean

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  14. One false positive for synthetic marijuana, which I contested, but it didn’t matter they still remove before they even get the results of 2nd more accurate test

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  15. Hi everyone, I have a question. I had a baby a little over a year ago and there was a positive tox screen. She had no withdrawals, weighed 7lbs 15oz, 20 and 1/4 inches was 37 weeks and 1 day and was peeing as soon as she came out. The only problem is that she couldn’t keep her blood sugar up (I’m type 2 diabetic) but it was regulated within 8hrs. Come to find out I had 2 social workers come by the next day. The last one said they were putting a hospital hold on her because of the drug test. That was May 21. On May 26 we had our tdm and they had us go do a rapid drug test. It came back positive for “Methamphetamine” I have recently seen my court documents and on that same day the test was sent to a lab and those were negative. Our Attorney’s won’t listen when we say that this is false and a bunch of lies. They also took my 2 older kids and a child I have been taking care of since he was born. He is a true “drug baby”. I need help. Don’t know what to do. I have not gotten to spend more then 2 hours a week with my baby and cps want to adopt her out to my sister stating that she is bonded to them and I’ve only spent maybe 5 days with her. What do I do. I NEED HELP. I WANT TO SUE THEM ALL. PLEASE SOMEONE IM BEGGING PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND ALL HIS CHILDREN.

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  16. I just got cps called on my boy kids father is a drug user. They told me 13 days ago they would be contacting me with info on where to take a drug test. I have never been a user of any type should I be worried about loosing my kids by of him?

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  17. Confuse hurt lie on used me my kids I was very scare .now its the end my worker played me and the lady my kids got place with is a family member and she has brain wash my kids she got them in August last year so eight months the kids CP’s kept my kids one year in foster and didn’t allow or go over other family my kids had never been without me we was all scared I’m a good mom made so mistake but at the end I become a monster in CP’s has torn me my daughter apart she wants to be home and me my kids rights the family has kept me away for 3 months I need help my kids and myself or still victims I did everything now worker wants my case over he lie I finish all my classes in 6 months evenad a place for a entire year more to my story god please send me the lower take my case I’m hurting I’m in a lot of what happen I believe now I look back the entire Case all lies I was used my kids my daughter 12 its hard to talk and allowed her to see CP’s my cousin the state I’m a bad mom I’m a danger I never raise a had or did any harm my daughter tells me she whisper she hates this and they have thought her to lie it hurts me to no that my daughter wants justice peace and the Truth out .she is trap.now the lady who lies smoke weed all day everybody get ssi check her husband can’t walk this lady allowed my kids to feel not safe with me she and a few other one’s have jump me in front of my kids have told my daughter me and her dad don’t love her she only one and she is lieing to keep my kids away somebody help me I didn’t do anything my kids got taken I’m 34 no criminal record I was a mom

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  18. I am going thru a CHIPS case and they took my child now it’s going on 90 days and they have also found meth that CPS his told me my 2 yr old child has eaten a big chunk of it when I have never ever used and all my UAs come out positive only for methamphitmohe also have a piece of shit attorney

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  19. I had been on concerta for adhd..they gave me a hair follicle and said I tested positive for methaphedimine..I passed the swabs many times…because of numerous calls from an angry ex they took my child away…I’m so sad and my boy needs me so much…he has his brother which I’m grateful for but needs his mom..what can I do

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